Whatever Happened With Public Discussion of the Future of RFK Stadium?

 Washington, D.C.'s sole monumentally appropriate stadium

RFK Stadium in 2020 by Olaf Zerbock licensed under Creative Commons.

found at https://ggwash.org/search/c2c0069c583145cda8c7470d9c97f8a8

See articles regarding R.F.K. stadium's future at Greater Greater Washington:

July 27, 2023 https://ggwash.org/view/90392/breakfast-links-congressional-bill-could-clear-way-for-rfk-stadium-site-to-become-mixed-use-development-commanders-new-stadium

June 10, 2019 https://ggwash.org/view/72491/breakfast-links-from-rfk-stadium-parking-lot-asphalt-park

March 25, 2019 https://ggwash.org/view/71448/breakfast-links-what-should-dc-do-with-the-rfk-stadium-site

June 28, 2018 https://ggwash.org/view/68159/northeast-dc-is-turning-vacant-parking-lots-into-playing-fields-thanks-to-these-parents 

October 27, 2017 https://ggwash.org/view/65353/breakfast-links-will-the-park-service-sell-rfk-stadium-nah

April 5, 2016 https://ggwash.org/view/41299/meet-rfk-stadiums-two-master-plan-candidates

See more from Greater Greater Washington at https://ggwash.org/search/c2c0069c583145cda8c7470d9c97f8a8
 

The Washingtonian Predicts Nationals Stadium Likley to Be Short Lived

Article lists 5 recent buildings in Washington, D.C. that are to regret, and either be renovated or demolished- including apostate Nationals Stadium

http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/real-estate/these-5-recent-washington-buildings-are-structures-well-regret.php

Both of these structures are serviceable, but convention centers and stadiums are designed around the latest technologies and ways to steer patrons to beer stands and merch. They usually have a short shelf life. Chances are both of these buildings will be renovated or replaced.

The other four such structures to regret that this article lists are the D.C. Convention Center, the ATF Headquarters, an apartment building with a Safeway supermarket "The Exchange" at Wheaton Place, and the underground U.S. Capitol Visitor's Center.

Of these, IMHO, the ATF is the ugliest, and the National's Stadium is the most mis-located.

Nationals Stadium To Be Demolished

http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2011/07/up-front-hidden-in-plain-sight.html

Washington, D.C.'s Nationals Ballpark Stadium, which was approved at a supplementary closed door vote of the DC City Council to reverse their disapproval earlier that day in March 2005 and constructed from 2006 to 2008, is to be demolished.

The decision to demolish was made after an engineering study found numerous stress cracks in the concrete support substructure.  Such cracks are said to be due to its poring in less than ideal atmospheric humidity conditions, owing to the great rush to erect the stadium by Spring 2008.

Ostensibly, that deadline was for U.S. President George W. Bush to have the opportunity to throw out the ceremonial fist pitch, a custom since the early 1900s, with 2008 Bush 43's final opportunity to do so.

For some time afterwards, various road signs pointing to the stadium bore the "W" that represents his nickname.

Once the stress cracks were found, it was determined that such had rendered the stadium unsafe, subject to partial sudden collapse while holding tens of thousands of people.  Thus it has been declared a hazard, with the Washington Nationals now required to start the 2015 season back at RFK Stadium which they occupied  previously, during the 2005, 2006 and 2007 seasons.

Members of the Farnese family in Spain, including retired King Juan Carlos who has lobbied behind the scenes to push this stadium upon Washington D.C., and the local law firm Covington & Burling which had fashioned the stadium deal and has long served upon behalf of the elites in getting over upon the general public, were unavailable for comment.

A Split South Capitol Mall

in the form of a pair of traffic ovals

article excerpt from  http://www.thewashcycle.com/

http://www.thewashcycle.com/2014/12/south-capitol-street-bridge-no-longer-to-be-a-draw-bridge-improved-connections-for-cyclists.html

South Capitol Street Bridge no longer to be a draw bridge, improved connections for cyclists

Back in 2011, DDOT and the FHWA released a Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) for the proposed replacement of the South Capitol Street Bridge. This project covers the area that is the intersection of the Anacostia Riverwalk Trail on both sides, and the South Capitol Street and Suitland Parkway Trails and it would completely rebuild South Capitol Street and Douglass Bridge. [Update: JDLand covers the same territory here]

But since 2011, they have decided to make several changes to the design, most notably to build a fixed bridge instead of a draw bridge and to change the alignment on the east side of the river to avoid having to acquire land from the Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling (JBAB). This decision resulted in changing the alignment of the proposed new Frederick Douglass Memorial Bridge to a location immediately south of and parallel to the existing bridge (instead of offset at an angle). They also changed the east side traffic circle into a traffic oval aligned in the same direction as the west side one and changed the proposed ramps or ramp modifications between South Capitol Street and I-695, Suitland Parkway and I-295, and Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue SE and Suitland Parkway. This resulted in a new alternative called the Revised Preferred Alternative and the issuing of a new Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement (SEIS). You can see the new alignment in the image below and images from 2013 here.

The Preferred alternative offered a lot for cyclists. The new bridge will have much improved multi-use paths. The project will construct new and improved pedestrian/bike connections throughout the project areas including a new pedestrian/bike path along Suitland Parkway connecting Firth Sterling Avenue and the east oval. They would implement signed bicycle routes along New Jersey Avenue and throughout the Project Area to provide connections and improved access to the Anacostia Riverwalk Trail, the riverfront, and Historic Anacostia. On the west side, the project will change South Capitol between the river and I-395 into a boulevard with at-grade crossing, slower speeds and better sidewalks, which should make it better for biking on and easier to bike across. It will also reconstruct the pedestrian bridge over Suitland Parkway between Sheridan Road and Barry Farms and widen the Martin Luther King, Jr. Avenue overpass at Suitland Parkway to accommodate a new multi-use trail. The existing Suitland Parkway Trail within the project area will be upgraded as well.

The revised preferred alternative will still feature all of these items, although the combined width of the bike/ped facilities was decreased from 20 feet to 18 feet. It now includes an 8-foot pedestrian lane and a 10-foot bidirectional bicycle path - curb-separated - on both spans as seen below.

The Revised Preferred Alternative has several other changes for cyclists and pedestrians.

• Both (as opposed to only one in the PA) existing ramp configurations between I-695 and South Capitol Street will be replaced with an urban interchange, creating a safer interchange configuration for cyclists and pedestrians.

• On the southern side of Suitland Parkway, a sidewalk and bicycle path will now be included. A grade separated pedestrian/bicycle path would be provided at the ramp from southbound I-295 to westbound Suitland Parkway.

• The proposed traffic circle would be replaced by a traffic oval, providing a sidewalk around the oval, and a connection with a section of the Anacostia Riverwalk Trail. The pedestrian travel distance around the oval would still be greater than traveling through the traditional at-grade intersection.

• In the PA, the proposed interchange at Suitland Parkway would require pedestrians and cyclists to cross the ramps between the two roadways. These crossings would be controlled by a traffic signal. But in the RPA, the elimination of the center ramp interchange will provide two urban diamond interchanges that will be controlled by traffic signal. In addition, a sidewalk/bicycle path would be provided or upgraded along the north side of the reconstructed Suitland Parkway

• The RPA includes a new multi-use Firth Sterling Trail. It will primarily use the existing CSX right-of-way and connect the South Capitol Street Trail (at Firth Sterling and South Capitol Street intersection) with the Anacostia Metrorail Station.

The Firth Sterling Trail is really a separate project that is new to the FEIS, but not really new. Sort of like the Soccer Stadium is new and in the project area, but not really new. If CSX is finally willing to get rid of this ROW, maybe this can later be extended all the way to D Street SE? The SEIS has this to say about it elsewhere.

This project would be a multi-use trail connecting the South Capitol Street Trail (at Firth Sterling and South Capitol Street intersection) with the Anacostia Metrorail Station (just northeast of the Suitland Parkway and Firth Sterling intersection). The length of the trail, including intersection crossings, will be approximately 2,400 linear feet.

The majority of the trail will be located within the CSXT Railroad Shepherds Branch right-of-way that is being acquired in Fiscal Year (FY) 2015 by DDOT from CSXT. Due diligence on the right-of-way is presently underway by DDOT/AWI staff. The trail location is within the APE for the Revised Preferred Alternative.

The other option for the Firth Sterling Trail project would be to add it to the present South Capitol Street Trail. This project is nearing completion of the preliminary (30 percent) plans within a few weeks. Currently, it has no final design or construction funds obligated to the project. Based on the NEPA process required for acquisition of six easements from the JBAB, the South Capitol Street Trail design will not be finalized until next year at the earliest. Construction would probably not begin before fiscal year 2017.

On the intersection of Howard and Suitland Parkway Trail, the SEIS includes this

The proposed Suitland Parkway Trail along the north side of the roadway will pass through the intersection of Howard Road at Suitland Parkway, which is proposed by the Revised Preferred Alternative as an un-signalized, right-in/right-out intersection. The projected traffic volumes turning right at this location are not high enough to warrant a traffic signal. However, potential pedestrian/vehicle conflicts could become problematic at this location if right turning movements were to increase substantially. Adequate gaps in vehicular traffic to facilitate as safe pedestrian crossing of Howard Road could become infrequent and cause delays for Suitland Parkway Trail users. The proposed intersection could include installation of a traffic signal to control the flow of vehicles and provide alternating rights-of-way for pedestrians/cyclists and right-turning traffic.

As shown in Figure 4-15, movements shown in similar colors could proceed together and then alternately stop to reduce conflicts and ensure sufficient crossing times for Suitland Parkway Trail users. This configuration would provide a two-phase crossing of Howard Road, so the triangular pedestrian refuge island between the inbound and outbound lanes of the roadway would need to be of sufficient size to accommodate the expected numbers pedestrians and cyclists waiting for changes in signals. Although not part of the proposed Revised Preferred Alternative, this revised intersection will be studied further during final design.

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This pair of traffic ovals essentially represents a South Capitol Mall split upon the two sides of the Anacostia River.

Too bad that the northern oval is hemmed in with development upon both sides, along with that along South capitol Street further north.  It all reeks as a sell out to some wealthy elites that were able to ram that Nationals Stadium upon Washington, D.C. in utter contempt of the Extending the Legacy South Capitol Mall.

Oh well there's always eminent domain...

Nationals Stadium Likely Culprit Is Thinking About Retirement

Spain's King Juan Carlos,
a member of the infamous Farnes family that created the Satanic Jesuit Order
and likely culprit behind the apostate Washington Nationals Stadium


http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-new-york-times-on-spains-king-juan.html

 

 

 

April 1, 2013

http://wwwsouthcapitolstreet.blogspot.com/2013/04/yes-its-boondoggle-white-elephant.html

 April 1, 2012

 http://wwwsouthcapitolstreet.blogspot.com/2012/04/interview-with-king-juan-carlos-on.html

 

Looking across the roof of the under-construction admin building (or, as I call it, the bow of the S.S. Nationals), toward South Capitol Street and points south, including the new intersection at South Capitol and Potomac. I'm King of the World!!! (9/1/07) above photo and caption Washington Post real estate reporter Jacqueline Dupree http://www.jdland.com/dc/stadium.cfm?tab=no3

A Pair of Ovals For South Capitol

http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-pair-of-ovals-for-south-capitol.html

A South Capitol Circle?

 

Greater Greater Washington (GGW) decries the proposed South Capitol Commons (oval), but fails to provide any alternatives.

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/17260/formal-geometry-forces-awkward-south-capitol-design/#comments 

The "racetrack" looks like an ugly compromise between a motivation to create a Washingtonian boulevard look and the practical needs to move a lot of cars. L'Enfant designed circles in an era with far less traffic. This project is merging the geometric form of L'Enfant's circles with the traffic demands of today and ending up with a "camel is a horse designed by a committee" design, with some of the worst of both elements. We end up with places that don't move cars particularly well, and a place that's not especially pleasant to walk or bike around. It would make a great spot for some memorials, though. As the terminus of a L'Enfant street, the National Capital Planning Commission is going to want to site some commemorative works there. Maybe a really great memorial design could successfully create some kind of public space. Perhaps this is the perfect spot for the Eisenhower Memorial and its large metal tapestries. Here, you'll need to block out the surroundings, and for a President with road-building as one of his most notable achievements, being in what feels like a sort of highway median could be perfect.

Me thinks the GGW article's title 'Forced Geometry Forces Awkward South Capitol Design' best describes what happened - namely the intervention of Nationals Stadium planning (and the politics behind not relocating the St Vincent DePaul Roman Catholic Church) - and thus the effective cancellation of the preceding never yet officially named 'South Capitol Mall' concept of South Capitol Street widened with a new linear park.

1996 US NCPC un-named 'South Capitol Mall' at upper left

2001 US NCPC Memorials and Museums

The South Capitol Commons traffic circle is simply a means of salvaging the South Mall concept by giving it a vertical shape to somewhat emulate it.

Is it truly ugly, or rather inadequate?

Yes one has to cross 5 lanes, as one must cross 7 to access the National Mall.

Yet whereas the National Mall is quite wide, this proposed South Capitol Commons is only about 100 ft wide

Can't we do better?

GGW can be a better source ideas when they come from the article's comments:

Extend the underpass to the start of the bridge and have the underpass lead directly to the left lanes of the bridge in both directions. Deck over underpass with parks and cross streets. - kk  

As long as there is good pedestrian access (tunnels, bridges, etc.) to the green space in the oval and there is a good buffer to traffic it should not be an issue. It could be the "square" of SW (i.e., Lincoln Park and Marion Park). It can be a win for reclaimed parkland in the city. - Sivad

Both ideas make the new parkland more accessible.  But I say - in addition - make it a circle of the diameter of the Lincoln Memorial traffic circle, lined up with the axis of Carrolsburg Place SW and Van Street SE, with a landscaped southern extension to the waterfront - and that as a basis.

Yes, its a Boondoggle- White Elephant Nationals Stadium

Interview of Spain's King Juan Carlos - April 1, 2013

King Juan Carlos- (KJC) Yes, Douglas Andrew, we were setting up the ancient order regarding this absolute absurdity of a baseball stadium thwarting the South Capitol Mall., essentially steering our arrogance to your blogs.

Nationals Stadium white elephant was poured and cured too quickly in overly wet conditions, said will increasingly become more chalk-like.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 Pope Benedict to Hold Mass at Washington Nationals Stadium: Expect the "... King of the World!!!"

The Pope will tentatively hold Mass next April at Washington Nationals Stadium, days after its opening day. In describing this stadium's clubhouse, Jacqueline Dupree uses the term "I'm King of the World".  I think that's a plausible description of someone who was there- April 17, 2008.

With the Douglass Bridge viaduct now demolished, the views looking north on South Capitol Street easily encompass both the ballpark and the Capitol dome. The Administration building at right is now topped out. (10/21/07)Above photo and caption by Washington Post real estate reporter Jacqueline Dupree http://www.jdland.com/dc/stadium.cfm?tab=no2 Note the knife-edged clubhouse to the right.

Looking across the roof of the under-construction admin building (or, as I call it, the bow of the S.S. Nationals), toward South Capitol Street and points south, including the new intersection at South Capitol and Potomac. I'm King of the World!!! (9/1/07) above photo and caption Washington Post real estate reporter Jacqueline Dupree http://www.jdland.com/dc/stadium.cfm?tab=no3

Jacqueline Dupree said it. That's the stature of someone who will be standing near that "bow" next April!

More...Labels: Pope Benedict: posted by Douglas A. Willinger @ 6:48 PM 0 comments

KJC- Yes, that reporter, 'J.D." hit the nail on the head with that caption she selected: “King of the World”.

Douglas Andrew (DA)- What a great analogy- the ‘bow of the S.S. Nationals’ and in the context of an event filled with VIPs in April- a clear allusion to me of the political arrogance this structure reflects, as roughly analogous to the part of the Titanic that hit the iceberg.

KJC- Yes it was arrogant and stupid.  And by design to fail as David slay Goliath- for what we Catholics all want to see; and for now the attendee list of that April 17, 2008 -- on the 218th anniversary of Benjamin Franklin's death -- event, appears to be a closely guarded secret.

But it was absolutely necessary to so monumentally display and demonstrate the degree of how the nation has been so dumbed down.  And to do it with popular "entertainment", particularly as spectator sports.
 

http://www.iconbusters.com/iconbusters/htm/photo_album/1/71-figure.htm

Yes, you have heard the term all roads lead to Rome.  That should be particularly easy to understand remembering what ancient Rome was so well known for- spectator sports viewing at stadiums aka coliseums.

Just look at the planning disaster, that we, that is organized Romish-Masonic set up as bait to see the lead person in a patriot defense of the planning of our nation's capitol from foreign influence, such as that of Rome.

Here you have a Washington, D.C. that was all set upon getting a new what would be called a "South Capitol Mall", with numerous illustrations in the U.S. National Capital Planning Commission's "Extending the Legacy - Planning Americas capitol for the 21st Century"- and sharing the same term given by the appropriate Masonic bodies to the 1985-2002 term of Fred Kleinknecht.

Fred Kleinknecht's time as 'Sovereign Grand Commander is termed "Extending the Legacy"

U.S.N.C.P.C.'s program featuring the un-officially named South Capitol Mall

is also called "Extending the Legacy"

But lol and behold.  It was 2003 that brought the abandonment of constructing any real version of a SCMA, deciding to not widen the right of way- nevermind that ultimately saved only one building- the St Vincent dePaul Roman Catholic Church just north of M Street- owing to the area being envioned to have a near replacement of its buildings with newer construction.  Yet it was in late 2002- the previous year- that the stadium report was released publicly; and it included the one directly alongside South Capitol Street.  To even consider such an idea given the wide release of the Extending the Legacy renderings of the future SCM greenway, including its utility for facilitating an underground highway connection with the I-395 3rd Street Tunnel, suggests an unaccounted influence.

DA- A city planning that so silently abandoned the SCM, and the subsequent stadium deal approval as a reversal by the D.C. City Council in a closed-door post mid-night special session -- and virtually unreported by the MSM and ‘muckrackings’ as Fields of Schemes Neil DeMause all suggest such an influence.  Given a number of factors -- the St.Vincent dePaul Church; the measure of involvement of religious orders as the Knights of Malta with MLB and its push for that particular stadium location, and the connections of Washington, D.C. director of Sports and Entertainment, all speak volumes about how "all roads lead to Rome".

Peter Kolvenbach, S.J. born November 30, 1928;
29th Superior General of the Jesuit Order, 'retired' 2008

Kolvenbach was in Maryland, adjacent to Washington, D.C., something like a day or two prior to the April 17, 2008 Papal Mass.

That pose above, which comes from Jesuit sources, appears selected to convey that the apostate to 'extending the legacy' stadium was his idea.

JD photo

LINK- The Telling Behavior of Neil DeMause 'Field of Schemes'

KJC- Douglas Andrew, we knew about you already from your on-line advocacy of an appropriate freeway system for Washington, D.C., and such for the Capital Beltway reconstruction in Alexandria Virginia- the "Alexandria Orb".

 

December 18, 2000

 

The Shrinking Washington Street Urban Deck

My Alexandria Orb Proposal

That was actually a very nice idea, even as, sadly, it pissed off a segment of the local establishment for such an idea from an apparent outsider.  Alas, we were not ready to give you that victory back then, though nice shot for a millennial gateway.

But your Alexandria Orb proposal, which you filed a copyright on December 22, 1998, alerted us to you as a potentially potent advocate for positive change for as many as possible.

So was your 1997+ postings through such venues as dc.driving and misc.transport.road.  And of course that astonishing assortment of people you collected together, challenging the current mythos of no new freeways inside the Capital Beltway. 

DA-  Ah!  The Capital Beltway.  THE Beltway.  That which we hear constantly as a sort of metaphor for the political reality.

And that which may appear to represent some sort of divine mandate to rule, a thought emanating from so many things in so many days from inside the Beltway, particularly within Washington D.C., plus the Bethesda-Chevy Chase broad corridor.  Which represents certainly a vast disproprtionate level of influence of the wealthy versus the less affluent as can be seen geographically with the deletions of the inside the Beltway freeway system and the ripple effect.

KJC- Ripple effect?

DA- Yes, ripple effect.  Bethesda gets to say no on the Northwest Freeway- that is the one that would have continued the eastern fork of I-270 (then I-70S) inside the Beltway paralleling Wisconsin Avenue to a cut and cover tunnel segment beneath Tenly Circle in Washington, D.C.  From there it was to either continue via Glover Archibold Park, or have a split with the preceeding plus a spur easterly to the I-66 North Leg of the Inner Loop at 14th and U Streets NW.

With Bethesda and far northwest getting their 5 year moratorium on freeway planning to the west of Rock Creek Park in the 1960 transportation act, planning turned towards a North Central Freeway routed along the B&O railroad tracks- a plan that we both know was botched deliberately.

KLC- And which hardly anyone ever heard or saw, because we had all jammed the airwaves with the simplistic communust propoganda like sloganeering- you know a short catchy phrase that serves a multiple of purposes like how one sees and thinks, and can serve as distraction from initiating indeendent thought processes.   Like "no white mans' roads through black man's homes"... and you are the nine year old asking about that and wondering about that wide power line right of way corridor questioning the popular slogan as representing popular intellectual laziness.

DA- And thus being able to see the environmentalist movement, namely its mainstream version, e.g. that which can talk about conservation but not challenge mercantilism, such as that against Hemp.  Your situation with the failure to complete the Washington, D.C. freeway system is a classic example of wealthier areas getting off of their area's burden by kicking the can down the road.  The Princeton, New Jersey corridor's stopping of I-95 in western New Jersey, by denying this connection to I-287 to divert traffic around the greater NYC area, places extra traffic upon the segment of I-95 that passes through NYC- the Cross Bronx Expressway.  Accordingly this is justified for discouraging some rural development, even as disproportionately less attention is given to environmentally mitigating the existing I-95 Cross Bronx Expressway. A great many more people live in close confines to the Cross Bronx Expressway than to western new Jeersey's now missing I-95 segment.

KJC- Whoa!  That's getting into environmental injustice issues, matters which make it more obvious that authority was way more centralized then popularly perceived!

So that is why this set up is intentional to show just how stupid things have come.

Imagine something like the McMillan Plan being shown to the public, and after thousands of people saw the model, it gets squashed, with no visible public discussion nor controversy.

DA- Indeed, take a look closely to the sequencing within the planning.

The 1995 through 1997 N.C.P.C. documents show numerous illustration of the future ‘Mall’, which is the single most significant future addition here proposed in ‘Extending the Legacy’.

“With the expressway removed, South Capitol Street can become another Pennsylvania Avenue with an enticing mix of shops, housing and museums”

“This dramatic site where South Capitol Street meets the water is ideal for a major civic building, such as the Supreme Court”

However this is without any mentioning of the term “Mall” nor even greenway, nor linear park.

Instead the terminology is boulevard and gateway. These are terms all the more vague and less useful for informing people, but more useful for confusing them, as any such plan would have ‘boulevard’[s] as part of a gateway, though not necessarily accompanied by any sort of broad linear park, as that shown on the very cover of Extending the Legacy Planning America’s Capital for the 21^st Century.

KJC- Apparently, the whole South Capitol Mall concept was developed through U.S. N.C.P.C. prior to the decision from top of the political pyramid to kill it, given the numerous illustrations but the utter lack of appropriately descriptive text.

DA- Indeed, at a public gathering in Washington, D.C. in 1997, internet writer Richard Layman told me that Extending the Legacy had originally planned to extend further, namely in re-crafting the enormous open rail yards and railroad corridors extending northward from the rear side of Washington, D.C.’s Union Station, covering and perhaps even lowering these corridors.

Under this idea, the railroad corridors would be reconstructed with vast new linear parks built atop, better connecting the area locally, and even regionally by expanding this railroad- as well as the idea un-mentioned by Layman of including a new set of cut and cover highway tunnels providing D.C. its now missing set of northern and eastern express highway routes.

The decision to kill the South Capitol Mall apparently occurred by the time of the publication of the Extending the Legacy, given the lacking terminology.

The decision to kill the idea addressing the railroad corridors was apparently made earlier, given its utter exclusion from Extending the Legacy. 

That these decisions were apparently made at different times – IOW why was not the ‘South Capitol Mall’ deleted from the illustrations as was the ‘Metropolitan Branch [the name of the railroad] Mall’ – may suggest something about the political hierarchy’s different levels.

KJC-  Yes!  Just take a look at the family that King Juan Carlos is a descendant- the family Farnese.

The Farnese family helped create the Jesuit Order, with the name Farnese appearing on Ignatius Loyola's tomb and the front of the Order's Mother Church in Lazio, Rome, the Gesu.

They also constructed what's been called the original Pentagon, located on a hill with a skinny street and the green-space instead clustered directly around this building.






http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2010/04/dcs-monumential-indicator.html

Note the treatment of the corridor extending down the hill from Villa Farnese of a narrow street (in what appears in the lower photo to be triangular in shape).

Naturally the following from the UK based The Un-Hived Mind caught you eye:

I have just concluded a trip to the Villa Farnese which was the ORIGINAL 'Pentagon' in Caprarola. What is amazing is that they arrogantly and proudly admit to controlling Washington D.C. and that the building was the original prototype. It was created as a secret and hidden meeting place for Cardinals to command their legions in Germany to counter the reformation and to plan the 30 years war. In its map room, we you can visit as a tourist, there are 5 maps of the United States dated to before the American Revolution 1600s. One of these includes a future capital where washington is today.

THESE PEOPLE DESIGNED AMERICA!
THEY LAID OUT WHERE EVERYTHING WOULD BE BEFORE IT CAME!

.....Then, the brainwashed tour guide told us that: "Oh my, it's a very strange coincidence that the future capital would be positioned there 'between Maryland and Virginia' and that the Pentagon is on the map too. The Farnese might have been psychic. After all they were popes"

Psychic, MY ASS --- They built Washington! and its even got the Washington Monument on the same map! 

check this out; Washington D.C. is between VIRGIN (ia) & MARY (land)

These Jesuits admit to EVERYTHING! We are the stupid ones, in that we just don't care. They get away with everything. Look at the inscription on Ignatius Loyola's tomb: What does it read: ' CARDINAL ALEXANDER F A R N E S E '

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Farnese_%28cardinal%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_Farnese#History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Paul_III http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon

ANYBODY WHO THINKS THE JESUITS DON'T CONTROL WASHINGTON ARE SIMPLY RETARDED PERIOD!!!

THE FARNESE RAN THE JESUIT ORDER AND STILL DO TODAY!
Posted by Douglas Andrew Willinger at 10:14 PM

A Crafted Controversy- the scuttling of JFK's B&O North Central Freeway
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2012/01/crafted-controversy-scuttling-of-jfks-b.html

Washington, D.C. Freeway Planning Hegelian Dialectic
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2010/05/1960s-washington-dc-freeway-planning.html

2001 Memorials and Museums

2001 Memorials and Museums

The un-officially named 'South Capitol Mall' concept from USNCPC's 1995-1997 Extending the Legacy, appears with a somewhat different design in its 2001 Memorials and Museums

Some Points Concerning South Capitol Street

- only 6 years ago, officials spent some $120 million to re-do (shorten and construct a new northern touchdown) upon the existing bridge for aesthetics (avoiding having the elevated bridge segment alongside the new stadium); this was done even though that bridge was already scheduled to soon be replaced- thus arguing in favor of some DELAY to better amortize that project's cost.

- planning was shaped and expedited by Nationals Stadium, which appeared in a 2002 stadium study pre-dating the 2003 decision to go against the 'Extending the Legacy' planning of the 1990s and the 2001 Museums and Memorials and abandon the central concept of a South Capitol Street corridor widened to accommodate a new linear park, essentially a southern leg of the national mall or 'South Capitol Mall'.  The oval shaped South Capitol Commons, appearing since 2005 is USNCPC's effort in salvaging the un-officially named 'South Capitol Mall' concept, with the vertical oval chosen to somewhat emulate the aspect ratio of the shape of a linear park somewhat, particularly with a southwards to the waterfront landscaping.

- Any and all of the envisioned planning for the South Capitol Street corridor and area has massive re-development to the east and the west, with various plans with renderings showing different degrees of this to the west, involving the potential displacement and replacement of several hundred architecturally humble century old dwellings.   Not widening South Capitol Street was for the benefit of that Nationals Stadium, and the sole building alongside SCS to survive the re-development- the St Vincent de Paul Roman Catholic Church, and itself does not guarantee preserving the neighborhoods to the west.  

- As all scenarios have massive redevelopment and thus a massive increase in the local population and trips, improving the road network to better accommodate the extra traffic - vehicular and pedestrian is necessary.  Yet strangely, urban planning here takes a suburban twist by attempting this all at grade (all on one level), allowing planning for a parallel vehicular tunnel to relocate some of this corridors traffic underground to languish, while wasting the existing short underpass at South Capitol and M Street, filling it in, rather than intelligently incorporating its space into a modern 2 x 2 cut and cover tunnelway beneath SCS to connect with the left-hand lanes of the yet to be built replacement South Capitol Street Bridge.

- The officially proposed oval shaped South Capitol Commons is constrained to the northeast by Nationals Stadium, but could otherwise be enlarged to the east and west to make it a circle- thus making a significantly more useable space for something monumental.

- The South Capitol Mall concept is of course physically constrained to the northeast by Nationals Stadium, St Vincent de Paul Church.  To the northwest its constrained so far only by a solitary new residential building- 1325 South Capitol Street.

- The South Capitol Street corridor is the center of Washington, D.C.'s 3 main axis that extend to a waterfront, between the National Mall culminating to the west at the Lincoln Memorial Traffic Circle, and to the east at East Capital Street - RFK Stadium, with Souh Capitol with a truly special vista.  To not do something monumentally suited would be a waste.. 

An Appropriate Location for a Statue of Samuel R. Caldwell

first victim of that crime masquading as law- prohibition of Cannabis

 

 

The 'Virginia' Avenue circle atop an undergrounded SW/SE freeway as the location of a statute of Samuel R. Caldwell, first victim of the criminal 1937 federal tax scheme prohibition of Cannabis, to face the future South Capitol Mall.

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VIRGO St Vincent DePaul Church

St. Vincent de Paul Church, at the northeast corner of South Capitol and M Streets SE.

Note its three clearly defined points with its trio of crosses, with one each upon its shorter northern and taller southern towers, flanking a middle cross at its roof’s peak.

It can be said to look somewhat Masonic from the front with its pyramid shaped peak above that ‘eye’ of a window.

And again, from above

(Come to think of it, I’ve noticed this zodiac design feature on numerous churches, including ‘protestant’)